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	<title>Comments on: Fighting Apathy in the Church</title>
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		<title>By: andrewong2024</title>
		<link>http://andrew-ong.com/2009/03/30/fighting-apathy-in-the-church/#comment-8464</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dun believe in a democratic system but theocracy in the context of the Church. It is not a matter of effectiveness but being biblical and recognising that God and His word is the final authority.

However, like Terence pointed out, accountability is not one way, but two way between leaders to members too. 

I guess this is determined by the depth of security and maturity in love a leader has in relating and involving members in the church.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dun believe in a democratic system but theocracy in the context of the Church. It is not a matter of effectiveness but being biblical and recognising that God and His word is the final authority.</p>
<p>However, like Terence pointed out, accountability is not one way, but two way between leaders to members too. </p>
<p>I guess this is determined by the depth of security and maturity in love a leader has in relating and involving members in the church.</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
		<link>http://andrew-ong.com/2009/03/30/fighting-apathy-in-the-church/#comment-8445</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 15:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the lack of elaboration as I was typing in between classes :-)

Anyway, what I mean is that as much as it is right that pastors are accountable to God, they much also make it clear to their congregation that they are still imperfect people. 

Pastors also like to preach about trust and how God will eventually bring to justice those who abuse their positions. Therefore, it is implied that we shouldn&#039;t question the pastors too much. &quot;A place of agreement is a place of power.&quot; Familiar phrase?

Therefore, pastors, as much as possible, should be accountable to their flock, and be as transparent as possible.

Of course, the other extreme will be a democratic church, which, unfortunately can often lead to lack of action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the lack of elaboration as I was typing in between classes <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, what I mean is that as much as it is right that pastors are accountable to God, they much also make it clear to their congregation that they are still imperfect people. </p>
<p>Pastors also like to preach about trust and how God will eventually bring to justice those who abuse their positions. Therefore, it is implied that we shouldn&#8217;t question the pastors too much. &#8220;A place of agreement is a place of power.&#8221; Familiar phrase?</p>
<p>Therefore, pastors, as much as possible, should be accountable to their flock, and be as transparent as possible.</p>
<p>Of course, the other extreme will be a democratic church, which, unfortunately can often lead to lack of action.</p>
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		<title>By: JF</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[accountability towards god and his appointed leaders are a top-down model preached by many and proven to be effective thru the years.. have not the case of &quot;Too many cooks spoil the broth&quot; plagued many so-called democratic groups..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>accountability towards god and his appointed leaders are a top-down model preached by many and proven to be effective thru the years.. have not the case of &#8220;Too many cooks spoil the broth&#8221; plagued many so-called democratic groups..</p>
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		<title>By: andrewong2024</title>
		<link>http://andrew-ong.com/2009/03/30/fighting-apathy-in-the-church/#comment-8435</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can elaborate further on your point about how “accountability towards God” without “accountability towards man” would be a problem in producing apathy?

Thx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can elaborate further on your point about how “accountability towards God” without “accountability towards man” would be a problem in producing apathy?</p>
<p>Thx</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
		<link>http://andrew-ong.com/2009/03/30/fighting-apathy-in-the-church/#comment-8434</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, but perhaps an over emphasis on &quot;accountability towards God&quot; without &quot;accountability towards man&quot; would be a problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but perhaps an over emphasis on &#8220;accountability towards God&#8221; without &#8220;accountability towards man&#8221; would be a problem.</p>
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